tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2404509015791000032.post3604267034131797015..comments2024-03-04T00:09:50.431-08:00Comments on Rikdad's Comic Thoughts: Retro Review: Alan Moore's Swamp ThingRikdadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14475851964933197612noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2404509015791000032.post-30087497917948984042021-03-27T07:32:57.010-07:002021-03-27T07:32:57.010-07:00Matthew Cable died in Swamp Thing 84 (cover dated ...Matthew Cable died in Swamp Thing 84 (cover dated March 1989, featuring Sandman, Eve, and the Dreaming with cameos by the House of Mystery and House of Secrets) towards the end of Rick Veitch's run as writer during the storyline where Swamp Thing was traveling backwards in time. This was a few months before he first appeared as Dream's raven in Sandman 11 (cover dated December 1989). It wasn't stated outright at the time, but was heavily implied (and maybe stated later in one of DC's Who's Who issues?) that because Matthew's conciousness was in the Dreaming when he died he was part of the Dreaming and could be revived as Sandman's raven.Mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14501816134987751924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2404509015791000032.post-8023652069644238782016-06-26T12:17:01.058-07:002016-06-26T12:17:01.058-07:00There was a storyline in the Sandman follow-up ser...There was a storyline in the Sandman follow-up series called The Dreaming where it is made explicit. It involved Anton Arcane and Abby Cable, who is referenced as Matthew's wife from his previous life. Matthew dies, and Lucien (the librarian) becomes the raven for Daniel, the current Sandman.Eddie C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14242095136500802572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2404509015791000032.post-14091560071725999182015-08-25T07:19:18.690-07:002015-08-25T07:19:18.690-07:00Jonny, I think you may have found it all. The timi...Jonny, I think you may have found it all. The timing is another thing that should be mentioned: Matthew died in Swamp Thing (long after Moore left) shortly before he appeared in Sandman.<br /><br />It seems beyond question that it's the same Matthew, but I'm a bit amazed that there's no one arguing the opposite, because it isn't absolutely stated as an objective fact. But, then again, there isn't that much discussion of 28-year-old works in general, much less arguing the fine points which are long past the point when the creator might slip us a surprise twist.Rikdadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14475851964933197612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2404509015791000032.post-23471740649268524512015-08-24T13:53:16.923-07:002015-08-24T13:53:16.923-07:00Great blog Rikdad!
I just pulled out my Sandman...Great blog Rikdad! <br /><br />I just pulled out my Sandman tpb's to check on any Matthew Cable information I could find. Just flipping through and rereading any pages that feature Matthew the Raven.<br /><br />In Sandman vol. 2 Dolls House there is a conversation and Matthew says a few times about disliking hospitals and doing something rotten in another life before he was a raven. <br />In Sandman vol 7 Brief Lives Matthew mentions, in a conversation with Dream, that he died "the first time" in a drunk driving accident.<br />Later in the run he plays an even larger role in the story, (teaming up with the Corinthian to find Daniel, etc) but details about his life pre-raven aren't delved into. <br />Jonnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14667412261395222328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2404509015791000032.post-7621903017055569352015-08-23T16:34:21.736-07:002015-08-23T16:34:21.736-07:00Good points on both Luthor and Batman sakei, and i...Good points on both Luthor and Batman sakei, and it brings up a point I didn't mention: Those appearances happened precisely at the end of Crisis, making it interestingly ambiguous, or undefined, which Luthor and which Batman we were seeing. Was that mad scientist master criminal Luthor? Probably, because magnate Luthor wouldn't have been showing up in person to contract a mere $1 million project, and didn't look like the early Byrne Luthor who was introduced within weeks of the S.T. appearance.<br /><br />Likewise, it wasn't yet the "Bat God" version of Batman who made an ineffective attack on S.T. and then said, "oops." Still, Batman already had great cachet as a major player in the DCU, and Moore kept utilizing him in order to put big-name stardom (but from the darkest choice possible) into his issues.Rikdadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14475851964933197612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2404509015791000032.post-42237122863916629342015-08-23T11:47:12.326-07:002015-08-23T11:47:12.326-07:00I'll have to re-read the whole run at sum poin...I'll have to re-read the whole run at sum point.<br /><br />I have read the Abigail-Swampy sex scene which led to the Batman guest appearance. It speak to Moore's talent that he could do moar to make Lex Luthor a badass in a single cameo that most writer's could in an entire arc.<br /><br />And of course even though Swampy thoroughly dominates Batman, it''s a nice touch that Swampy's last line concedes Batman could eventually win. That Swampy seemingly taking pleasure in admitting that some how makes me like even moar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com