tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2404509015791000032.post5944963844400526604..comments2024-03-04T00:09:50.431-08:00Comments on Rikdad's Comic Thoughts: Does Batman Kill His Enemies?Rikdadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14475851964933197612noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2404509015791000032.post-208096864461338822010-11-30T18:22:49.370-08:002010-11-30T18:22:49.370-08:00Take note of where Batman shoots Turpin/Darkseid. ...Take note of where Batman shoots Turpin/Darkseid. It is not a kill shot. The theotoxic bullet is deadly to gods, but not as deadly to humans. Batman is exorcising Darkseid from the human host. In this way, he is not so much killing a living being, but attempting to banish the self-aware idea that is Darkseid. Also consider how hard it was to finally "kill" Darkseid AFTER Bruce shot him. Darkseid existed as a collective consciousness in everyone at that point. Wonder Woman had to use her lasso on him, the Flashes had to bring the Black Racer to him, and finally, Superman had to banish his astral form with the frequency of the multiverse and the miracle machine. To say that Batman is "killing" Darkseid or Turpin here is not even close to accurate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2404509015791000032.post-69530766248411925912010-05-09T21:24:07.120-07:002010-05-09T21:24:07.120-07:00Hi John,
The deaths I mentioned in the blog are mo...Hi John,<br />The deaths I mentioned in the blog are most definitely in the story, starting on the ninth page. Each of the two final Monster Men are being transported in trucks, and in two separate incidents, Batman aims machine gun fire at the trucks, causing them to crash. In particular, we see a conversation between two normal human henchmen in the front seat of the first truck. We aren't told directly that the henchman perish, but the guns of Batman's plane are "spitting death" and Batman says the "human life" line as he begins shooting the truck. Despite the lack of autopsy photos, I think the deaths of the drivers has to be presumed. I don't know how a plane flying at the front of a car could aim machine guns at it with the intent to stop the car and avoid hitting the drivers. The "human life" line clinches what Batman is doing; there's nothing about hitting the tires to spare the drivers.Rikdadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14475851964933197612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2404509015791000032.post-49641187713508501012010-05-09T19:02:06.930-07:002010-05-09T19:02:06.930-07:00This is a little late, but I just discovered your ...This is a little late, but I just discovered your blog and have to nitpick a bit: in Batman #1, Batman doesn't shoot up a truck of henchmen. He kills the "monster men" that Hugo Strange genetically engineers. First in a warehouse he goads one into attacking another, then they eventually all beat each other to death while Batman escapes. There are two on the loose, so for the first one he hangs a noose from the Batplane and kills it with it. The second monster man death is the one involving the machine gunfire and is done King Kong style. As I recall from The Complete History of Batman, it was at this point that DC decided Batman shouldn't kill or use guns to avoid something as disturbing as that issue.JohnMurrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00185774906641634956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2404509015791000032.post-22227652882667060582009-04-15T21:47:00.000-07:002009-04-15T21:47:00.000-07:00The last thing Batman says before going under is t...The last thing Batman says before going under is to tell Turpin to warn the remaining heroes about what's happening. Obviously, he considers that worthwhile.<br /><br />I would say that Darkseid leaves no recognizable traces of Turpin (Superman sees Turpin's DNA, but Batman can't pull that trick), and it's simply beyond Batman to conclude any such thing from a sheer lack of information.<br /><br />Yes, Turpin made that comment, but there's no indication that he will physically transform into anyone, much less into Darkseid.<br /><br />Batman did have the parallel example that "Kraken" was actually Granny, but that's actually a different case: That was Granny's mind in Kraken's body. I don't see how Batman would even have the raw data that Turpin turning into Darkseid was possible, much less likely, much less certain.<br /><br />I'll add that when Morrison wrote the Club of Heroes story (which was a detective story), his rendition of Batman drew sharp (and ultimately correct) conclusions that he had seemingly no basis for making. One way to write the world's greatest detective is to let him say correct things with no apparent path to the conclusion, and let us marvel at how he did it. (With the author perhaps having no such idea, either!)Rikdadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14475851964933197612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2404509015791000032.post-75102809233647917302009-04-15T20:15:00.000-07:002009-04-15T20:15:00.000-07:00Rik
Good Post , Just One Error I Think You Made.
...Rik <br />Good Post , Just One Error I Think You Made.<br />In FC2 In Bludhaven , Before Bruces Mind Is Tortured By The " Dark Empire " , There Is a Line or atleast a statement when Turpin says There Is Something or someone in his head . So Batman could have deduced That Turpin was being taken Over By DarkSeid ? <br />What Say YouHarshvardhan Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03098501857368887183noreply@blogger.com